I bank with one of the major High Street banks and have done so for over thirty years. They’re not brilliant, but they’re not terrible either. And I do have good overdraft facilities with them. But are they in the dark ages?
I needed to make a CHAPS payment recently. I had to go to a branch to do this. I then had to fill in a form in handwriting – not the best idea in my case. Well, the £1500 has gone from my bank account, but has not arrived in the American one into which I am paying. I went back to the branch to chase it up.
“Oh, I’m afraid we can’t deal with it. You’ll have to phone the International Group. I was allowed to do that from a free phone in the branch. However, I still had to go through a switch board as the option for International Payments was not listed. And of course, it was engaged.
So, I could have phoned form the comfort of my own home. Which I have tried to do ever since. I’ve not managed to get through.
The people to whom I’m paying are now chasing it. I wish them luck. The copy of the receipt that I have is very faint and the clerk’s writing is just as bad – if not worse – than mine. Apparently, this is pretty common with this bank – which is probably why one can’t get through on the phone.
Pity I didn’t use my Alliance and Leicester bank account. I can make CHAPS payments directly from that. But honestly, why does a respected High Street bank still rely on personal presence and handwriting in the 21st Century.
Thursday, 29 November 2007
Sunday, 25 November 2007
Leaders, Southsea, receive 21st Century Sanity Bouquet
Leaders, Southsea, receive the first “21st Century Sanity” bouquet from this blog.
They have been the Letting Agent for flats I own in Southsea since August 2005. They have found me good tenants and there have been few weeks of void. They have even helped me when making decisions about new flats I’m buying.
The team who work there are all young and energetic and seem to have a good deal of common sense.
They react quickly to any problems either I or the tenants flag up. They understand that I’m not always at the end of the phone and don’t panic. They leave a message which I answer as soon as I can, often leaving a message on their out-of-hours number.
The whole of this Letting Agency works efficiently and fairly. I’m glad to do business with them
Sunday, 18 November 2007
Getting a Phone Line
21st Century Madness
Getting a Phone Line
“Watchdog” recently did something on this. But this is my saga of trying to get a phone line. Now, in line with my own etiquette for this blog, I am not going to name the company. But they are big, and it’s difficult to do anything without them. So you can probbaly guess.
I deliberately found my new flat early so that I could get all the services sorted out, move in, go on holiday, and be up and running to start my new job on 24th September.
I found the flat on 10th August, and made arrangements to move in on 24th. I immediately contacted said phone company. There was no line in the flat already, so I would have to pay to have one put on. Fine, there was plenty of time. After two hours on the phone – thank goodness a free phone number – they agreed to come and put it on between 8. a.m and 1. p.m on Thursday 30th August. That would work. I was going on holiday form 31st August to 23rd September.
By 1. 00 p.m on 30th August, no one had come. I spent two hours on the phone until someone answered.
“Oh, didn’t anyone tell you? They should have phoned to say that they were coming tomorrow instead.
“Tomorrow? But I arranged to be here today. I’m going to be driving to France tomorrow.”
“Oh!”
Now, it so happens, the wiring is all there for the phone. They really only have to go and do something to a junction box within the building. We have a concierge on site and a manager. In theory, they don’t really need me to be here. Wouldn’t you have thought they would have known that as they have such a monopoly? (Careful, I may be giving something away here.) The rather friendly person on the other end of the phone made notes.
Whilst abroad, I set my phone so that I will only get calls from family. I then pick up voice messages as and when and only reply to the important ones, roaming charges being what they are.
We were almost at Tours when I picked up the call form the engineer informing me that I had “Missed your call-out”. The next appointment couldn’t be until the 10th of September.
Good luck, I thought. I made a mental note to talk to the management and concierge a little nearer the time.
Two days later, I had a call form the same company, telling me they would be putting my phone line on the 12th September. I later spoke to the concierge and the management people. They agreed to look out for the phone engineer.
I did get a call on the 12th September. Someone did go and do as much as they could. Stupidly, despite the fact that everything is already there, they do need to get into the flat. Just to put a little machine on to the end of the line and get someone to tell them that it’s working. MY line did work – I tested it from France. I even tried reporting a fault. There was no fault. It was working fine.
They then did the double-act trick again. This time it was going to be 21st September and 24h The 24th might have been okay – but not a.m. It didn’t seem to occur to anyone that it might be an idea to check with me first. At this point, we found that not only was the line live, but it was also listed in the phone book. Just one snag. I couldn’t use it yet.
I spoke to someone sensible eventually. They offered me 1st October a.m. I settled for p.m and recounted the whole sorry saga. Whilst I was speaking to this sensible person, I had four messages left on my mobile phone from cheerful gentlemen in India informing me that the engineer was coming on the morning of 1st October.
Well, someone did come on the afternoon of 1st October. They phoned first, but unfotunately the concierge was off sick and the manager was on lunch. Another hour’s delay, therefore. Once he could get to all the bits he needed to get to, it took him under ten minutes to get me a working line. For that, I have to pay £124.00
But the saga did not end there. I did not choose to have this company provide calls or Broadband. The company I did choose gave me a date ten days later. However, because the line-monoply company has inefficient processes, this was delayed be a further ten days.
Now we get on to the bill. I’ve opted to go paperless, pay monthly and use my debit card to pay – although I’d rather use Direct Debit. Guess what, you can’t get through to the people who set up the Direct Debits. They helpfully tell you to go to the website. I tried that. It wouldn’t let me complete the transaction.
And interestingly, “going on my average calls” I need to pay £76.00 per month. I pay a line rental to them only. My calls go through the other company. Oh, they will pay back. I’ve experienced this before. But how dare they take so much in the first place? They don’t offer to pay interest. Of course, I should phone them and query it … but have I got the two hours to wait?
Getting a Phone Line
“Watchdog” recently did something on this. But this is my saga of trying to get a phone line. Now, in line with my own etiquette for this blog, I am not going to name the company. But they are big, and it’s difficult to do anything without them. So you can probbaly guess.
I deliberately found my new flat early so that I could get all the services sorted out, move in, go on holiday, and be up and running to start my new job on 24th September.
I found the flat on 10th August, and made arrangements to move in on 24th. I immediately contacted said phone company. There was no line in the flat already, so I would have to pay to have one put on. Fine, there was plenty of time. After two hours on the phone – thank goodness a free phone number – they agreed to come and put it on between 8. a.m and 1. p.m on Thursday 30th August. That would work. I was going on holiday form 31st August to 23rd September.
By 1. 00 p.m on 30th August, no one had come. I spent two hours on the phone until someone answered.
“Oh, didn’t anyone tell you? They should have phoned to say that they were coming tomorrow instead.
“Tomorrow? But I arranged to be here today. I’m going to be driving to France tomorrow.”
“Oh!”
Now, it so happens, the wiring is all there for the phone. They really only have to go and do something to a junction box within the building. We have a concierge on site and a manager. In theory, they don’t really need me to be here. Wouldn’t you have thought they would have known that as they have such a monopoly? (Careful, I may be giving something away here.) The rather friendly person on the other end of the phone made notes.
Whilst abroad, I set my phone so that I will only get calls from family. I then pick up voice messages as and when and only reply to the important ones, roaming charges being what they are.
We were almost at Tours when I picked up the call form the engineer informing me that I had “Missed your call-out”. The next appointment couldn’t be until the 10th of September.
Good luck, I thought. I made a mental note to talk to the management and concierge a little nearer the time.
Two days later, I had a call form the same company, telling me they would be putting my phone line on the 12th September. I later spoke to the concierge and the management people. They agreed to look out for the phone engineer.
I did get a call on the 12th September. Someone did go and do as much as they could. Stupidly, despite the fact that everything is already there, they do need to get into the flat. Just to put a little machine on to the end of the line and get someone to tell them that it’s working. MY line did work – I tested it from France. I even tried reporting a fault. There was no fault. It was working fine.
They then did the double-act trick again. This time it was going to be 21st September and 24h The 24th might have been okay – but not a.m. It didn’t seem to occur to anyone that it might be an idea to check with me first. At this point, we found that not only was the line live, but it was also listed in the phone book. Just one snag. I couldn’t use it yet.
I spoke to someone sensible eventually. They offered me 1st October a.m. I settled for p.m and recounted the whole sorry saga. Whilst I was speaking to this sensible person, I had four messages left on my mobile phone from cheerful gentlemen in India informing me that the engineer was coming on the morning of 1st October.
Well, someone did come on the afternoon of 1st October. They phoned first, but unfotunately the concierge was off sick and the manager was on lunch. Another hour’s delay, therefore. Once he could get to all the bits he needed to get to, it took him under ten minutes to get me a working line. For that, I have to pay £124.00
But the saga did not end there. I did not choose to have this company provide calls or Broadband. The company I did choose gave me a date ten days later. However, because the line-monoply company has inefficient processes, this was delayed be a further ten days.
Now we get on to the bill. I’ve opted to go paperless, pay monthly and use my debit card to pay – although I’d rather use Direct Debit. Guess what, you can’t get through to the people who set up the Direct Debits. They helpfully tell you to go to the website. I tried that. It wouldn’t let me complete the transaction.
And interestingly, “going on my average calls” I need to pay £76.00 per month. I pay a line rental to them only. My calls go through the other company. Oh, they will pay back. I’ve experienced this before. But how dare they take so much in the first place? They don’t offer to pay interest. Of course, I should phone them and query it … but have I got the two hours to wait?
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Phone Line
Monday, 12 November 2007
Etiquette for this blog
Now, I’m a reasonable sort of person and actually tend to think that people are more good than bad. So I am never going to name and shame any company in this blog. I guess occasionally it might not be too difficult to guess who I’m talking about – like when I say one of the leading phone companies in Great Britain, for instance. The idea is to give anyone who recognises themselves the chance to put things right. It’s possible, too, that other companies might recognise some of their own unacceptable behaviour and put it right before someone else complains about it.
I will, on the other hand award cyber bouquets to named companies. These are the ones who show common sense, go beyond the system or are just extremely good at what they do and who put the customer first.
So, if you know any such company who deserves a 21st Century bouquet, do let me know. I’m also interested in anyone who challenges 21st Century madness and gets a positive outcome. That might give the rest of us some ideas about how to handle things.
I will, on the other hand award cyber bouquets to named companies. These are the ones who show common sense, go beyond the system or are just extremely good at what they do and who put the customer first.
So, if you know any such company who deserves a 21st Century bouquet, do let me know. I’m also interested in anyone who challenges 21st Century madness and gets a positive outcome. That might give the rest of us some ideas about how to handle things.
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etiquette,
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Monday, 5 November 2007
Changing bank accounts
I have recently remortgaged one of my buy-to-let properties. Before it completed, but after I’d had the mortgage offer, I changed bank accounts. I rang them. They sent me a new Direct Debit mandate which I duly filled out and sent back.
When the mortgage completed, they sent me a summary of what would happen. They still had my old bank details. I phone today to try t find out what has gone wrong.
“Oh, we can’t use that bank,” said the assistant.
“Why not?” I ask. “It’s a normal bank, with a proper sort code and a proper account number. They just don’t make so many charges as the big boys, and they actually pay me a fair bit of interest.”
“Oh. I’ll ask.”
She comes back.
“You have to phone this other number, and they’ll be able to take your new details over the phone. You need option 3.”
Now I know better. Most banks insist on a paper version of the Direct Debit mandate. The problem is not that I haven’t given them information, but rather that they have lost or failed to process the information I have given them.
I phone and chose option 3. I seem to be put through to the department that deals with people in arrears. Come on now, I can’t be in arrears yet. I’ve only had this mortgage a month. They haven’t even taken the first proper payment.
I choose option 3. It rings and rings and rings. They do tell me they’re busy. Well, am I surprised?
I put the phone on speaker, but somehow manage to cut the connection. I redial.
“We are experiencing an unusually high number of calls,” a pre-recorded voice informs me. “Please try later.”
I’m still not surprised.
Has anyone had a straight forward conversation with a mortgage company about a change of bank account? If you have, please let me know your secret. I’ve had eight similar conversations with mortgage providers recenlty. Funnily enough, I own eight buy-to-let properties.
When the mortgage completed, they sent me a summary of what would happen. They still had my old bank details. I phone today to try t find out what has gone wrong.
“Oh, we can’t use that bank,” said the assistant.
“Why not?” I ask. “It’s a normal bank, with a proper sort code and a proper account number. They just don’t make so many charges as the big boys, and they actually pay me a fair bit of interest.”
“Oh. I’ll ask.”
She comes back.
“You have to phone this other number, and they’ll be able to take your new details over the phone. You need option 3.”
Now I know better. Most banks insist on a paper version of the Direct Debit mandate. The problem is not that I haven’t given them information, but rather that they have lost or failed to process the information I have given them.
I phone and chose option 3. I seem to be put through to the department that deals with people in arrears. Come on now, I can’t be in arrears yet. I’ve only had this mortgage a month. They haven’t even taken the first proper payment.
I choose option 3. It rings and rings and rings. They do tell me they’re busy. Well, am I surprised?
I put the phone on speaker, but somehow manage to cut the connection. I redial.
“We are experiencing an unusually high number of calls,” a pre-recorded voice informs me. “Please try later.”
I’m still not surprised.
Has anyone had a straight forward conversation with a mortgage company about a change of bank account? If you have, please let me know your secret. I’ve had eight similar conversations with mortgage providers recenlty. Funnily enough, I own eight buy-to-let properties.
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Direct Debit,
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